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Why There Should Be NO Class participation

Wednesday, February 09, 2005

Is it just me or is the Socratic method a completely useless way of trying to teach a room of 150? The whole thing is predicated on instructor-learner interaction but when your sole interation will be for a 10-20 min span total during a semester that's not very helpful. What also isn't helpful is that you have to hear everyone else's interactions, which can be painful. Some of the lowlights of any law school class:

-Someone who didn't do the reading. If they are particularly ballsy it will take a loooong time for this fact to finally unfold in the professors' eyes. Either that or they just don't care and want to waste time too.

-The jackass who just read a "really interesting piece in the National Review" about the VERY same topic [although not really] and wants to discuss it until you are ready to stab, stab, stab.

-The Asian girl who speaks in a whisper so soft as to be inaudible even to the other Asian girl sitting next to her. She will stare into her 4 inch 1.7 lb laptop and mumble something. The professor will tell her to speak up twice, three, four, five times. Every time the professor will come away with naught. For she will not raise her voice in class even if the professor were to light her on fire.

-The dude who doesn't speak English. He has no problems projecting volume but no one is quite sure what he is saying. Is he advocating the violent overthrow of the means of production? Agreeing with the Ginsburg plurality opinion in Gasperini? No one will ever know.

-The old woman who is in law school...well who really knows why. Once she has a stage, look out. Years of pent up aggression over her failed marriage, lost career, and kids she never had result in a geyser-like ability to blabber on nonstop.

All I am saying is, unless it's a seminar in which Socratic interaction can work, law school classes should just be lectures. No one who participates has anything to say that is more worthwhile than the professor. This is if I actually cared about learning the law. Since I can't say that I do, the current system suits me just fine.

10 Comments:

At 2:37 AM, Blogger Peatey said...

Why are you caught up with 1L-rant about the Socratic method? I thought you were 2L, just answer everything with "It depends. It's a balancing test between two competing policy interests..."

 
At 8:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless you go to a law and economics school, in which case the answer is always some form of efficiency.

 
At 10:35 AM, Blogger ALS said...

"Why are you caught up with 1L-rant about the Socratic method?"

Because it is infinitely more annoying as a 2L to have to listen to the stream of verbal feces that is your typical response to Socratic style of teaching.

 
At 10:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Years of pent up aggression over her failed marriage, lost career, and kids she never had result in a geyser-like ability to blabber on nonstop.Yeah, and then she will tell everyone how her life experiences make her contribution so valuable. Well, I think, "Your life was fucking miserable. You're not someone to learn from. Unless you're going to teach us how not to be fuck-ups."

 
At 10:28 AM, Anonymous claire said...

The Socratic method only works when you are trying to get people to recognise something they already really know. Not when you are trying to teach them a totally new concept or point.

 
At 11:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Socratic method only works when you are trying to get people to recognise something they already really know."

what charming British spelling you have, Claiiiiiire.

 
At 11:14 AM, Blogger ALS said...

"Yeah, and then she will tell everyone how her life experiences make her contribution so valuable."

Really old people in law school are kind of funny, sad.

 
At 8:52 AM, Anonymous Claire said...

I'm not sure whether to thank you or be insulted for the comment on my spelling...

 
At 11:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm not sure whether to thank you or be insulted for the comment on my spelling..."

Why not both?

 
At 12:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

apparently you don't have to be old to have years of pent up aggression

 

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